Shalom Jay! Thank you again ! I went over the lists of the names you sent and all the letters and found only one name : gitel Hauben daughter of Debory , my grandfather's sister who unforutunately died when she was ony one year old. Now we understand that the other date that appears in the document we found is the date of her death. Therefore, we also understand now that also another brother, Isak Hauben died very young. However his name doesn't appear in the list of the deaths. I also saw that a man named Solomon Hauben died the same year my grandfather was born. Maybe he was his grandfather and my grandfather was named after him? It seems to me that maybe there was some confusion with their names because my aunt told me that my grandfather's parents got married only in a jewish traditionl cermony but were not officially married. the children got their family name from their mother Debory Hauben, but their father's name was Yehiel michel Licht. i didn't find his name in any of the lists , nor this family name. We are continuing our research. Maybe this week we will also contact Yad Vashem. Thank you! Of course I will inform you when I find any other connections. cousin Devora Jay had written: Dear Cousin Devora, I am happy that you have written back. Did you look at: http://www.ais.org/~jrh/hauben_family/Wielkie_Oczy/Wielkie_Oczy_Haubens.txt That was written after Dorota Hauben whose father survived WWII in Poland looked for Hauben names in documents from Wielkie Oczy. Jenny Falzner wrote out the names Dorata sent her in the file: http://www.ais.org/~jrh/hauben_family/Wielkie_Oczy/Wielkie_Oczy_records.txt It seems to me some of your family must be in these lists. I will past that file here: All documents which Dorota brought from Wielkie Oczy. Book of birthday : Leiser Labe Hauben, Born-Wielkie Oczy, 1846. Book of marriages : Jakob Hauben, Born W.O.,14. 08. 1864, son Izaaka and Ley Hauben Dwora Hauben, Born 22 02 1876, daughter Menachego and Fraidy(Fraidły) Hauben marriage 03 04 1916 Mnasche(Menoche) Hauben son Isaka and Leiy Hauben born 08 12 1854 Fradla Nachtigal born in Szczerec 1854 daughter Szymona and Gitli Nachtigal marriage 16 07 1916 Moses Hauben son Abrahama and Reisy Hauben born 22 07 1889 Fryda Goldstein daughter Gerschona and Feige Rose Goldstein born in Hruszewice 16 07 1892 marriage 11 08 1918 Josef Wolf Hauben born 1891 son Abrahama Markusa and Gitelchane Hauben Lea Hauben daughter Jakoba and Dwojre Hauben born 1899 marriage 20 02 1920 Majer Jakob Hauben son Abrahama Markusa and Gitty Chane Hauben born 1896 Itta Katz daughter Jakoba and Laje Katz born in Dubrowy 1900 marriage 01 06 1929 Salomon Hauben born in Kobylnica Ruska 1898 son Abrahama Judy and Tauby Hauben Marya Kaltmann rekte (Kaltm) Steinberg born in Tuchla 1904 daughter Chaima Kattmana and Beili Steinberg marriage 19 11 1924 Book of deaths : Gitel Hauben child Debory Hauben in Wielkie Oczy born 24 06 1902 death 27 06 1903 Abraham Hauben son Debory born 13 05 1904 -12 10 1904 Brancze Hauben born 24 02 1905-02 1905 Salomon Hauben born 1820-07 02 1905 Leib Hauben son Scheindy Hauben 1906-1906 Liebe Hauben widow after Mosesa Hauben daughter Chaima Hirscha and Chane Ester Steinbroch born 1827-28 10 1907 Freida Hauben daughter Abrahama Judy and Tauby Hauben in Kobylnica Ruska death 04 05 1909 Hersch Hauben son Chaje Hauben 1907 -03 06 1909 Scheindel Hauben wife Samuela 1835 -1910 Etel Hauben daughter Judy and Rosy Hauben 1836 -1911 Jochenen Hauben son Abrachama Hauben 1842 -1913 Sara Hauben wife Laba H. daughter Jozefa 1845 -1915 Gitel Chana Hauben 1868 -1915 Leiser Laba Hauben 1846 -1917 Scheindel Hauben widow after Menasche Hauben daughter Mosesa and Sary Weim 1863 -29 09 1919 Fradel Hauben wife Menache Hauben daughter Szymona and Gitli Nachtigal 1851-31 08 1921 Menache Hauben 1852 -17 02 1922. There are no longer any Jewish families left in Wielkie Oczy, but it is a splendid feeling to stand on the same ground where once went our ancestors. Take care Dorota ----------------------------------------- I got this from Jenny and put it up on my web site at: http://www.ais.org/~jrh/hauben_family/Wielkie_Oczy/ perhaps 6 years ago. Maybe you notice the name Yohanan? He lives in Israel and traced his family if I remember correctly also back to Wielkie Oczy. His family tree is called on my website Jushua's tree. You can read about Yohanan in two letters on my web site. One is at: http://www.ais.org/~jrh/hauben_family/letters/Yochanan_letter2.html The other at: http://www.ais.org/~jrh/hauben_family/letters/Yochanan_letter.jpg. Both letters are on my hauben letters webpage: http://www.ais.org/~jrh/hauben_family/letters/ Almost all letters there have an Israeli connection because Michel Hauben from France has family in Israel and spends most of his time there or a Wielke Oczy connection made by Dorota Hauben. Anyway I hope this helps some and you will let me know if you find any connections or more information about your family. Take care. Cousin Jay